Goodreads Is Damaging My Calm Today

I’m not anti-Goodreads. In fact, I usually love the site. I’ve managed to sidestep all the upset about the policy changes in recent months, especially the uproar over deleted shelves and reviews. I participate in Goodreads because I love tracking my own reading, keeping up with friends’ reading lists and reviews, and staying on top of new releases that I might otherwise miss. No drama for me, please! I have enough in my real life, thanks.

So what’s bothering me today?

It may seem like a minor point, but my issue today is with… (drumroll, please!) … SORT ORDER.

Huh? You may well ask…

On any book’s page, we get a synopsis and some details. Scrolling down, we see My Review, Friend Reviews, Lists with This Book, and then Community Reviews. And it’s in the Community Reviews section that I start getting annoyed. I supppose that it’s my own damn fault that until today, I never noticed that there’s a sort option for how Community Reviews are displayed. The choices are newest, oldest, and default. So what’s “default”? Goodreads describes its default sort option thusly:

The default sorting algorithm on Goodreads uses a variety of factors to determine the most interesting reviews. The recipe for our special sauce is a closely guarded trade secret, but the ingredients are: length of the review, number of people who liked it, recency of the review, popularity of the reviewer (i.e., number of people who have liked reviews by that person across all books).

So what’s my problem with this? The problem, for me, is that the review(s) that get the most prominence in the default sort order tend to be by reviewers who write the type of reviews that I personally try to avoid like the plague.**

**Hey, let’s be clear: To each his/her own! It takes all types, and I respect everyone’s right to write whatever they want, however they want! But I have preferences, and I know what I don’t like to read, and that’s all I’m saying here.

Again, just personal preference, but I can’t stand ranty reviews, the “look at me, I’m so clever” reviews — and I know some people love ’em, but I just don’t like looking at reviews with graphics/GIFs.

But beyond all that, I see no value in tearing down a book, and by extension, its author, for the sake of showmanship or attention-grabbing. But for whatever reason, it’s exactly these type of reviews on Goodreads that seem to get tons of “likes” — and therefore, those are the reviews that show up at the top of the sort order.

For a lot of books that are well-received overall or have a huge number of reviews, perhaps that doesn’t matter so much. But for a book by a new author that hasn’t “traveled” much yet, having a harshly negative (but highly “liked”) review pop up first in the default sort can only be damaging to its success. Let’s be honest: How far down do you scroll once you get to Community Reviews? Probably not that far, right? So if the first couple of reviews that show up are intensely negative, how likely are you to keep reading?

Don’t throw things at me when I state that I like Amazon’s lay-out better, where we see a graph of the reviews (how many per star category) prominently displayed above the individual reviews. Did you know you can read Goodreads reviews that way too? I didn’t, before today. Because it’s not obvious, and I just never thought to look. But yes, underneath the Community Reviews header, there’s an option for Rating Details, which displays all reviews sorted by stars.

Lo and behold! The picture really changes if you look at a review via Rating Details. In the case of the book that first set me off today, here’s what happened:

Under Community Reviews, by default sort, the first review is a one-star rant that, among other things, compares reading the book to “eating a rectum”. (There’s a lot more to the metaphor, but I’ll spare you.) Unbelievably, this review received 55 likes and 43 comments (many by the reviewer herself). Again, just to be clear, I respect the reviewer’s right to review the book as she sees fit. But is it fair to potential readers to have this review appear on top by default, unless they specifically change their sort order?

Looking at the very same book, if I click on the Rating Details menu choice, suddenly the book appears in a whole new light! 59% of reviewers gave the book either a 4 or 5 star rating, and only 4% of the reviews were 1 star. Wow, a lot of people liked this book! But you wouldn’t know that based on the default sort.

And when I open the page for other books I’ve read recently, the pattern seems to hold. For whatever reason, the ranty, negative reviews seem to get a lot of likes, which by the Goodreads “special sauce” formula means they rise to the top of the sort.

I don’t know why this particularly set me off today. Well, yeah, I do. I just felt bad, that’s all. I felt bad for the author who poured her heart into a first novel, and whose book’s page consistently shows this awful rant at the top of the Community Review section. How disheartening!

Like I said, I respect every reader’s right to give out one-star ratings as well as five-star ratings. And if you enjoy reading ranty reviews, by all means, have fun! But this super secret algorithm of Goodread’s seems a bit unfair in the long-run, as the picture that ends up being painted isn’t necessarily backed up by the totality of reviews given.

So, what do I want? I guess I’d like Goodreads to change their page lay-out, actually, although I suppose that’s wishing for the stars. Still, I think there must be a way to display data initially that doesn’t skew one way or the other, and that lets readers decide what type of reviews they want to focus on. I’m all for the fair and open exchange of ideas, but sometimes it’s the presentation that ends up mattering the most.

And when it comes down to deciding whether to give a new book a try, particularly when it’s by an author we’ve never read before, are we going to try the book that seems to have received very good reviews from most of its readers? Or are we going to read the book compared to eating very unsavory body parts? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

This is mostly a reminder to myself to dig deeper, I suppose, and not be unduly influenced by the first review I see, no matter how many “likes” it has. But for those of you — like me — who never paid enough attention to know that you have a choice, I have just two magical, important, life-changing words for you:

Sort order.

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A note after the fact: When I posted this earlier today, I had a momentary brain lapse resulting in not quite getting the post title to say what I’d meant it to say. In other words, I screwed up my pop culture reference! Couldn’t rest until I fixed it. Aaah. All better now.

13 thoughts on “Goodreads Is Damaging My Calm Today

  1. I’m with you – Amazon’s layout for reviews is so much easier to follow and use! I love being able to just click on a star and see only those reviews. Maybe Goodreads will evolve to that level. I’ve never noticed the sort order before so now I have to go look for that.

    • Funny, isn’t it — I never noticed it until today, and then I got mad that there are options I never knew about… and that it really could be so much better! Even though in general I find more meaningful reviews on Goodreads, I do think looking by star levels gives me a lot more insight, if I truly want a good picture of reactions to the book. Thanks for your comment!

  2. Hi Lisa,

    I love reading reviews on books, and I love goodreads for that reason. I hadn’t realized there was a special algorithm for viewing reviews, but I don’t usually pay too much attention to the very first review that pops up under a book anyway. I usually read my friends’ reviews (if there are any) and after that I read a few under whatever star reading I have selected (you can view all the reviews under a specific star rating). Sometimes if I really don’t understand a book (like one I just finished), I’ll read a few of the five star reviews to try and grasp what I may have missed. I don’t like crude or crass reviews either, but people are braver on the internet, so I guess that’s how it goes sometimes. Authors have to have a thick skin -as if writing isn’t hard enough! I always look forward to your kind and thoughtful reviews. 🙂

    • Oh, thanks Mary! Like you, I find my friends’ reviews the most meaningful — since I know and respect the source, I take those review much more seriously than the random ones in the community reviews section. “People are braver on the internet” — ha! that’s a great way to put it. So true! And I know what you mean about looking at a review to see what you’ve missed — I do this a lot in the cases where I have a negative (or even just mediocre) response to a book that seems to be getting a lot of praise. I really want to know what others have seen in the book that I didn’t! I really do enjoy Goodreads, but it’s easy to stumble into the nastier aspects without meaning to, and really, the review I saw today just made me feel so awful for the book’s author!

  3. GoodReads review system is definitely a popularity contest where the Loudest Mouth wins… The problem I have with sort by date, is so many people leave reviews that aren’t really useful…You’ll have a hundred “Love its” and we kind of knew they loved it when they gave the book 5 stars!

    The ratings details, can also be used to apply filters, if you click the bars it will show you only those reviews, but the same problem applies; you have to wade through a bit of quagmire to find something useful. If I’m looking to use reviews to judge whether or not i read a book, i try to read a couple well-thought out negative reviews (not to be confused with flame reviews) and a couple of positive ones…

    • Makes sense — I do tend to read a smattering of 5-star and 1-star reviews, to get a top and bottom view. There is a lot to wade through to get to good content — but it sure does make me appreciate the people who write thoughtful comments! LOL — I love how you describe it as “a popularity contest where the Loudest Mouth wins”! Perfect.

  4. Oh would you look at that. I think you just taught me how to use Goodreads properly lol I had no idea those options were there (but again, as you say, I’ve never thought to look…)

    I always see the reviews with .gifs in them and I’m always turned off :/ though I like to see if my friends have reviewed a book first, I find I can trust their judgement!

    Amazon does have such a better set up. I might have both open at once when I’m trying to figure out if I really want to read something sometimes. The day that Goodreads changes their layout is one I’m waiting for. There’s a few things they could do better, but it seems like it’s been the same forever.

    • I had to laugh at myself — I’ve been on Goodreads for years, and just never noticed that there were options! I’m with you: First I check out what my friends have to say about a book. By now, I know who I’m mostly in sync with when it comes to book tastes, which friends tend to turn me on to books I might not otherwise look at, etc. So much more reliable than wading through all the rest! Thanks for commenting — I appreciate your input!

  5. I didn’t know about the rating details and the review filtering, either! What I do first is look at the average rating right below the book title (just noticed that the rating details are accessible right next to those stars, too). Then I look at my friends reviews, if there are any, and then I glance through the first page of reviews and read a couple of five star and a couple of one star reviews. But I don’t usually read past the first page…

  6. Thanks for this useful post.You are absolutely right, the reviews that seem to get the highest number of likes are the ones which focus on presentation , especially the ones with moving pictures that sometimes drive me crazy. The way a review looks should be much less important than the content of that review.

    • Thank you! I think we’re on the same page. I’d much rather read a thoughtful review that explains why the reviewer did or didn’t like a book — but the ones that seem to get the most attention are the reviews with lots of flash and snark.

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